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Offline smargy

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Non-raid SATA add-on card
« on: June 21, 2012, 09:03:32 am »
I only have 6 SATA ports on my mobo, and two are taken up by my OS SSD and my optical drive.

That only leaves 4 ports for storage drives and I am pretty much using all these already without Flexraid.

So I would like to add some more ports. I think 4 more is probably enough for me. I have the following card slots:
PCIE 2.0 x 16
PCIE 2.0 x1
PCI normal

The problem is that all the add-on cards I can find are RAID cards. I would prefer something 100% non-RAID because I figure that will be more reliable with less chance of screw-up.

Do such products exist?

I don't want to spend more than about £100 because I figure I can buy a whole new mobo with 10 x SATA for not much more.

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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2012, 11:33:14 am »
Look in the hardware section of the forum there are some threads where such cards are discussed. The IBM M1015 is one card that support 8 drives on a 4x pcie.
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Re: Non-raid SATA add-on card
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2012, 11:49:53 am »
Isn't that 8x (not 4x) PCIE?

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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2012, 12:02:12 pm »
Yes you are right I thought about another product at the same time.
With some luck it should be possible to get the M1015 on eBay for about 50 Euros.
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Re: Non-raid SATA add-on card
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2012, 02:28:06 pm »
I use the Supermicro AOC-SAS2LP-MV8.  There are some threads discussing it around here that should have some helpful info.

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Re: Non-raid SATA add-on card
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2012, 11:39:19 am »
Okay, I will check out the IBM M1015, seems like a good card.

I also found some mentions of IBM BR10i, it seems you can flash it to be non-RAID. This is a good one also? It is cheaper so I guess it is worse than M1015?

Thanks guys

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Re: Non-raid SATA add-on card
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2012, 05:41:52 pm »
I'm not the expert on these cards, but I don't believe the BR10i is capable of using 3tb drives, based on things I've read on other sites.

Also be aware that the M1015 needs to be flashed to "IT" firmware for best results.  This is not always an easy process, and some (especially newer, non-server motherboards can't accomplish this).  There are e-bay sellers that will do this for you, but you probably pay a $10 to $20 premium for the service.  The thread on the M1015 doesn't make this fact real clear.  It was worth it to me to potentially avoid motherboard roulette trying to find one of my motherboards that would allow flashing the bios.

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Re: Non-raid SATA add-on card
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2012, 08:37:28 am »
Okay thanks, that is definitely something to be aware of. I can live with a 2.2TB limit on the BR10i, I will just use my mobo SATA for those and move my 2TB drives to the add-on card.

The main reason I am thinking of the older card is I can get one (BR10i) for €40 but I can't find any cheap M1015 in Europe. Seems to be more rare over here.

That is a little bit concerning about the difficulty to flash to IT firmware, my mobo is just a basic Asus H55 and I don't have any spare older ones. But I think i'll grab one and give it a shot anyway.

Thanks

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Re: Non-raid SATA add-on card
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2012, 11:07:31 am »
My comments applied on flashing the M1015, I have no idea if the same applies to the BR10i.  Let us know how these cards work out for you.

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Re: Non-raid SATA add-on card
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2012, 01:32:34 pm »
Thanks, will do

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Re: Non-raid SATA add-on card
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2012, 02:53:44 am »
I only have 6 SATA ports on my mobo, and two are taken up by my OS SSD and my optical drive.

That only leaves 4 ports for storage drives and I am pretty much using all these already without Flexraid.

So I would like to add some more ports. I think 4 more is probably enough for me. I have the following card slots:
PCIE 2.0 x 16
PCIE 2.0 x1
PCI normal

The problem is that all the add-on cards I can find are RAID cards. I would prefer something 100% non-RAID because I figure that will be more reliable with less chance of screw-up.

Do such products exist?

I don't want to spend more than about £100 because I figure I can buy a whole new mobo with 10 x SATA for not much more.

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Re: Non-raid SATA add-on card
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2012, 09:27:29 pm »
I have been using this one for several years in a NON Raid capacity. No issues. SATA II. 3Gb/s. 4 Port PCI interface. Linux friendly. SIL3124 chipset.

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Re: Non-raid SATA add-on card
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2012, 03:26:48 pm »
I got a BR10i + cable for about €50. It has  8 x SATA 3Gbps

Flashed it to IT mode and modded the Windows driver to allow spindown.

In FlexRaid I type E:/=sat and I can see the SMART data.

Everything has been stable for about 5 months so im happy.
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Re: Non-raid SATA add-on card
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2012, 12:16:30 am »
In FlexRaid I type E:/=sat and I can see the SMART data.
"E:/=sat" or "E:\=sat" ?
Are U in Cruise Control or Expert mode?

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Re: Non-raid SATA add-on card
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2012, 07:15:54 am »
"E:/=sat" or "E:\=sat" ?
Are U in Cruise Control or Expert mode?
That would be Expert mode.

In Cruise Control mode, you will have to go to the Windows Disk Manager and copy the full path for the mount point and use that.